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Powtoon software free full version. Gambro wro 300 manual. The results of all benchmarks are broken into four categories: multi-threaded, single-threaded, memory intensive and graphics / gaming. Core 2 Duo E4500 vs Pentium G645 single-threaded benchmarks Single-threaded benchmarks run on a single CPU core, and do not depend on such features as the number of cores, or Hyper-Threading technology.
does anybody here have already ryzen cpus?
could you share your fritz benchmarks with SMT DISABLED? PLS??
could you share your fritz benchmarks with SMT DISABLED? PLS??
http://immortalchess.net/forum/showpost.php?p=753335&postcount=576 , i think is good
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22981 , Intel Core i7-6900K (8c/16t)
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT on
15484 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT off
vor 7 Stunden
22981 , Intel Core i7-6900K (8c/16t)
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT on
15484 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT off
vor 7 Stunden
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The 6900k is double the price.
The 1800x even on early bios is doing very well indeed.
The 1800x even on early bios is doing very well indeed.
I made some little tests and posted them in a German forum (sorry, I'm too lazy to translate):
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f11/ryzen-schach-performance-bmi2-problem-1156117.html#post25368941
These results were made with only one run to depth 30/31 just to get an impression. The results make clear there is a problem with bmi2 compiles - they should be avoided. But overall chess performance isn't bad.
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f11/ryzen-schach-performance-bmi2-problem-1156117.html#post25368941
These results were made with only one run to depth 30/31 just to get an impression. The results make clear there is a problem with bmi2 compiles - they should be avoided. But overall chess performance isn't bad.
You going for dual socket naples when they come out?
Probably yes, but depends on the costs.
I'm starting to think Icelake might have some improvements in it if Intel feels threatened.
BygsgsDate 2017-03-17 12:52Edited 2017-03-17 12:59
translation :
Ryzen Chess Performance - BMI2 Problem
For the comparison AMD Ryzen against Intel Skylake I have carried out the following tests:
Hardware Intel: Xeon E3-1245v5 on MSI C236A Workstation with 2x 8GB Samsung DDR4 ECC 2133
Hardware AMD: Ryzen 1800X on Asus Prime B350 plus with 2x 8 GB Crucial DDR4 2133
Both run on load on all logical cores at 3.7 GHz
Result:
Engine Intel AMD difference
Komodo 10.3 7,75 Mn/s 14,86 Mn/s 92%
asmFishW_2017_02_15_popcnt 10,60 Mn/s 19,21 Mn/s 81%
asmFishW_2017_02_15_bmi2 10,91 Mn/s 14,25 Mn/s 31%
Stockfish_8_x64_popcnt 8,36 Mn/s 16,51 Mn/s 97%
Stockfish_8_x64_bmi2 8,69 Mn/s 12,36 Mn/s 42%
For these results, an inaccuracy of a few percent is in each case, since chess engines running multi-threaded do not work deterministically.
There are different compiler options - the popcnt versions use the valuable instruction POPCNT from the instruction set SSE 4.2. With a command count how many farmers are on the field. The bmi2 versions also use the BMI2 instruction set. This should improve the performance actually - with Intel folds also, as one can see from the results. Ryzen seems to be a serious problem.
Edit:
In the single-thread mode (since the Ryzen runs to 4.1 GHz), the following results are obtained:
Stockfish_8_x64_popcnt 1.591 Mn / s, Stockfish_8_x64_bmi2 1.156 Mn / s. These results are, by the way, extremely accurate
- in single-thread mode the results are deterministic. So 27.3% performance loss through the BMI2 option.
I myself wrote a small tool in C ++, which automatically sets affinities automatically optimally - regardless of the number of cores. I use this for years - and have it adapted yesterday, that it also SMT at AMD correctly named.
AffPri.png
The chess engines are usually controlled by a GUI. A freeware GUI is e.g. Arena: Arena Chess GUI for Linux and Windows - Welcome to Arena
You can also start the engine by clicking on it and then enter text commands that correspond to the UCI protocol. A sequence of instructions, e.g. like this:
setoption name threads value 8
setoption name hash value 2048
go depth 30
Means: use 8 threads, 2048 MB hash, calculate the position (without input basic) up to a depth of 30 units. The result is then time **** (consumed milliseconds), nps (nodes per second - the required performance value), nodes (the total number of calculated nodes = positions) and score (evaluation of the position in cp = centipawns = 1 / 100 pawns
With my new Asrock AB350 Pro4 it is now possible to switch off SMT. With a 1700X there are the following values (everything asmFishW - the CPU runs under load to 3.5 GHz):
popcnt Version: 13,48 Mn/s
onhe SMT bmi2 Version: 9,41 Mn/s
so, it should be clear that it's no SMT problem
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, 16 Threads, all threads @3.7GHz, Asus Prime X370-Pro:
Popcnt:
18.215.946nps, 8cp, 2.118.569.234n, g1f3 e7e6
18.307.576nps, 24cp, 1.232.887.103n, d2d4 e7e6
18.275.286nps, 6cp, 1.650.093.853n, d2d4 g8f6
18.279.639nps, 7cp, 2.532.077.382n, e2e4 e7e6
18.244.647nps, 14cp, 1.976.132.497n, d2d4 e7e6
Intel i7-7700K, 8 Threads, all threads @5.0GHz, Asus Prime Z270-A:
Popcnt:
12.830.001nps, 5cp, 1.148.002.859n, d2d4 g8f6
12.890.656nps, 17cp, 1.268.621.023n, d2d4 e7e6
12.839.685nps, 11cp, 1.334.903.602n, d2d4 e7e6
12.825.199nps, 10cp, 1.358.714.454n, d2d4 g8f6
12.834.243nps, 20cp, 1.790.710.651n, d2d4 g8f6
upgrade-bundle for old PCs :
C-Power-Bundle AMD Ryzen 7 1700. 16GB RAM DDR4 PC2400.
ASRock AB350 PRO4 AM4.
8x3,00GHz(Turbo 3,70Ghz) AM4.
EUR 659.52 including shipping
Ryzen Chess Performance - BMI2 Problem
For the comparison AMD Ryzen against Intel Skylake I have carried out the following tests:
Hardware Intel: Xeon E3-1245v5 on MSI C236A Workstation with 2x 8GB Samsung DDR4 ECC 2133
Hardware AMD: Ryzen 1800X on Asus Prime B350 plus with 2x 8 GB Crucial DDR4 2133
Both run on load on all logical cores at 3.7 GHz
Result:
Engine Intel AMD difference
Komodo 10.3 7,75 Mn/s 14,86 Mn/s 92%
asmFishW_2017_02_15_popcnt 10,60 Mn/s 19,21 Mn/s 81%
asmFishW_2017_02_15_bmi2 10,91 Mn/s 14,25 Mn/s 31%
Stockfish_8_x64_popcnt 8,36 Mn/s 16,51 Mn/s 97%
Stockfish_8_x64_bmi2 8,69 Mn/s 12,36 Mn/s 42%
For these results, an inaccuracy of a few percent is in each case, since chess engines running multi-threaded do not work deterministically.
There are different compiler options - the popcnt versions use the valuable instruction POPCNT from the instruction set SSE 4.2. With a command count how many farmers are on the field. The bmi2 versions also use the BMI2 instruction set. This should improve the performance actually - with Intel folds also, as one can see from the results. Ryzen seems to be a serious problem.
Edit:
In the single-thread mode (since the Ryzen runs to 4.1 GHz), the following results are obtained:
Stockfish_8_x64_popcnt 1.591 Mn / s, Stockfish_8_x64_bmi2 1.156 Mn / s. These results are, by the way, extremely accurate
- in single-thread mode the results are deterministic. So 27.3% performance loss through the BMI2 option.
I myself wrote a small tool in C ++, which automatically sets affinities automatically optimally - regardless of the number of cores. I use this for years - and have it adapted yesterday, that it also SMT at AMD correctly named.
AffPri.png
The chess engines are usually controlled by a GUI. A freeware GUI is e.g. Arena: Arena Chess GUI for Linux and Windows - Welcome to Arena
You can also start the engine by clicking on it and then enter text commands that correspond to the UCI protocol. A sequence of instructions, e.g. like this:
setoption name threads value 8
setoption name hash value 2048
go depth 30
Means: use 8 threads, 2048 MB hash, calculate the position (without input basic) up to a depth of 30 units. The result is then time **** (consumed milliseconds), nps (nodes per second - the required performance value), nodes (the total number of calculated nodes = positions) and score (evaluation of the position in cp = centipawns = 1 / 100 pawns
With my new Asrock AB350 Pro4 it is now possible to switch off SMT. With a 1700X there are the following values (everything asmFishW - the CPU runs under load to 3.5 GHz):
popcnt Version: 13,48 Mn/s
onhe SMT bmi2 Version: 9,41 Mn/s
so, it should be clear that it's no SMT problem
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, 16 Threads, all threads @3.7GHz, Asus Prime X370-Pro:
Popcnt:
18.215.946nps, 8cp, 2.118.569.234n, g1f3 e7e6
18.307.576nps, 24cp, 1.232.887.103n, d2d4 e7e6
18.275.286nps, 6cp, 1.650.093.853n, d2d4 g8f6
18.279.639nps, 7cp, 2.532.077.382n, e2e4 e7e6
18.244.647nps, 14cp, 1.976.132.497n, d2d4 e7e6
Intel i7-7700K, 8 Threads, all threads @5.0GHz, Asus Prime Z270-A:
Popcnt:
12.830.001nps, 5cp, 1.148.002.859n, d2d4 g8f6
12.890.656nps, 17cp, 1.268.621.023n, d2d4 e7e6
12.839.685nps, 11cp, 1.334.903.602n, d2d4 e7e6
12.825.199nps, 10cp, 1.358.714.454n, d2d4 g8f6
12.834.243nps, 20cp, 1.790.710.651n, d2d4 g8f6
upgrade-bundle for old PCs :
C-Power-Bundle AMD Ryzen 7 1700. 16GB RAM DDR4 PC2400.
ASRock AB350 PRO4 AM4.
8x3,00GHz(Turbo 3,70Ghz) AM4.
EUR 659.52 including shipping
@Lukas.have you tried the Base version.possible it will go even faster then popcnt version?!
JP.
JP.
The base version is slower.
Okay,Thanks.
Going for two AMD EPYC 7281s for $1200 looks like a nice price point for the 16c/32T cpu. In tandum $1200 bucks for 32C/64T! And I bet whatever board I put them in they will be at least as fast as a 2x e5-2697v4 and without the $2000/per cpu price tag LOL
Hi gsgs:
What does 'SMT' mean?
What does 'SMT' mean?
AMD SMT= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_multithreading
Fritz Chessbench (MT, points)
22981 , Intel Core i7-6900K (8c/16t)
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT on
15484 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT off
vor 7 Stunden
Thanks for the SMP url.
It is unclear from gsgs' tests whether SMT helps chess performance since
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT on
How is SMT turned on: in the BIOS?
22981 , Intel Core i7-6900K (8c/16t)
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT on
15484 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT off
vor 7 Stunden
Thanks for the SMP url.
It is unclear from gsgs' tests whether SMT helps chess performance since
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
20495 , AMD Ryzen 7 1800X SMT on
How is SMT turned on: in the BIOS?
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